Another Gasser build

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Offline slow67

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Another Gasser build
« on: February 25, 2016, 02:00:25 PM »
Looking forward to trying out the LBB!
Going on a 4.8L GM engine in a retro-fit. Currently have a HE451VE slated to go on it, but also just picked up an HE561VE as well (should be a 71/102 compressor 86/80 turbine wheel).

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2016, 02:38:10 PM »
Sounds cool!  Welcome aboard :)  Keep us posted on how it goes
'94 dodge, Colt Cam, head worked, NV5600, 3.55's, SB clutch, Ford manual hubs w. hawk brakes, custom flatdeck, custom aluminum bumper, cab off restoration, totally new engine, Mahle pistons @19:1..HE351VE with 67mm turbine and 67x95mm compressor
440hp/1000 ft lb @ 2400 RPM

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2016, 05:01:01 PM »
Thanks! I'm looking forward to it. This motor is a turd N/A. I know the big one should be close to an S471, so it should be a little work for my little 4.8L to spool (if it wasn't VGT). It comes off of the big cummins ISX.

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2016, 09:00:50 PM »
Not gonna lie I want that 561. 

I Need a reason to step up to a triple disc converter
2000 Dodge 2500 quad-cab 5.9 Cummins slt, homebuilt 47re revmax 3.5 messed with vb, Quad adr iquad, 4" tbe , pureflow 150 gph. he351ve in the works 100hp DFI inj

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2016, 09:07:26 PM »
Yeah i found it a couple of days ago (cheeeaaaap). Really anything smaller is futile on a gas V8.

My gasser already has a triple disk and it flashes to 2800 on motor (I've got a built 4L80E). I bet I can make it surge with the converter locked up  8)

I guess I'll be the guinea pig on the 561s for the lilbb. I haven't heard of anyone using it with stock cummins computers with them, I've only seen people use the 551 which has the air cylinder stock.

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2016, 09:40:16 PM »
sweet another gasser. And big vgt. Man I looked for a HE451ve for a long. Is it the 64mm 93mm compressor?

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2016, 09:47:45 PM »
mine has the 86 80 turbine but 73.6mm inducer and 105.8mm exducer. Off a volvo is all I know got her for $200 shipped. but no actuator. In the middle making a He351ve actuator fit my he5??ve.

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2016, 09:49:10 PM »
I don't have the 561 in my hands yet (in the mail), so I haven't measured the wheels.

Yeah the 451 is a 64/93 compressor and 76/67 turbine.

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2016, 10:11:39 PM »
i wanted the he451 for my 289

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2016, 10:32:50 PM »
did you find a 12v version?

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2016, 07:02:05 AM »
I have been keeping my eye open for one for awhile, I think my wife might kill me.....but it would be worth it
2000 Dodge 2500 quad-cab 5.9 Cummins slt, homebuilt 47re revmax 3.5 messed with vb, Quad adr iquad, 4" tbe , pureflow 150 gph. he351ve in the works 100hp DFI inj

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2016, 08:32:09 AM »
I think the 561 would be something else in my old Rx7... might take a little while to spool it even with the vgt, but it would be something freaky when it hit
'94 dodge, Colt Cam, head worked, NV5600, 3.55's, SB clutch, Ford manual hubs w. hawk brakes, custom flatdeck, custom aluminum bumper, cab off restoration, totally new engine, Mahle pistons @19:1..HE351VE with 67mm turbine and 67x95mm compressor
440hp/1000 ft lb @ 2400 RPM

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2016, 09:44:33 AM »
13b will spool it they spool the hx60 around 5500
but you could always do a compound set up. Vgt widens our power band alot.
 the compressor is limiting factor now.

Still waiting to find a dyno chart of 5.0 m2 setup.

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2016, 09:50:39 AM »
for the 2 rotor he351ve for street. 600hp range and he451 for track 850hp.
i figure my he5??ve is good tell around 1200hp

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Re: Another Gasser build
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2016, 12:02:58 PM »
I was wrong on the he451ve 800hp maxed got 3 charts for he561 yellow blue and purple